May 26, 2026

4 Rituals That Can Save Your Marriage ft. Shawn Johnson and Andrew East

Olympic gold medalist Shawn Johnson East and former NFL player Andrew East join me for a conversation about marriage, conflict, ambition, and what it really takes to stay committed when life gets hard.

We talk about the communication habits they've had to unlearn, the systems and check-ins that help keep their marriage strong, and why most people quit too early when things stop feeling easy. This episode is about learning how to grow through the uncomfortable parts instead of running from them... and why commitment might be the thing that gives life the most meaning.

Buy their new book, "The Courage To Commit"

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